We talk about how to connect your portable player to your OEM stereo and HK vs. OEM vs. after market stereo.
-Todd vs. Todd’s wife
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-Gabe’s take on the concept
-todd’s drinking iced tea
-Wow…more mac talk
-Cock fights at Gabe’s neighbors house?
-It’s Dension, not Denison
-Dension is an easy DIY project
-1st & 2nd gen iPod? Need the AUX Port adapter
-WRR staff is in need of iPod Nano’s for testing
-Except Gabe can’t wait
-Todd looked at the Pontiac Vibe
-We admit … we are H/K haters
-We talked about the MCS lightweight rumor
-A new yellow?
Todd did the hard part
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I some comments about using an iPod with aux input adapter. IPods do not have digital audio output. The Dension and OEM adapters use the analog line-out at the bottom of the iPod. For aux input, you can also use the same line-out instead of the headphone jack. Using line-out bypasses the iPod’s headphone amplifier for better sound. You would get the same quality of sound with aux input as with Dension or OEM adapters. To get a line-out jack, you need a small dock adapter such as from http://www.sik.com, or a PocketDock
(http://www.sendstation.com/us/products/pocketdock/lineout-fw.html).
I have an ’05 Cabrio with H/K and Nav. I also have the OEM iPod adapter and it works. Also with the OEM adapter you do have to name 5 playlists (MINI1, MINI2, etc.) otherwise the adapter won’t see anything, other then the 6th preset button is always the iPod’s main libary playlist. Also the OEM takes the place of the CD Changer so you can’t have both. Also one limitation of the OEM adapter is the it will only play the first 99 songs in each playlist.
Now my option about the H/K, the reason I got it was the clarity. I have the Cabrio with has lots o’ road noise the H/K was the clearest option. I don’t turn mine up loud and I have the bass way down. And with the H/K it’s always crystal clear. IMHO.
Great show guys!
Only *plays* 99 songs, or the display only goes *up* to 99? I thought it was the latter…
There are plenty of us that want XM radio and our iPod and the best way to do XM is to use the Blitzsafe/XM Direct solution which fits into the CD changer port in the boot. So that makes the Icelink a no-go for me.
My biggest problem with aux adaptor is that the standard install is in the glove box but I want my iPod where I can switch tracks, can’t do that when its locked in the glovebox.
We totally ignored you satellite radio listeners and the Blitzsafe.
As for install locations, I put my aux adapter under the toggles in the center and I have also seen it installed on the drivers side when a Euro Parcel shelf is installed. Either way your device wouldn’t be locked up in your glovebox.
Yeah, thats why I told the dealer not to install the input, but that did it anyway. Well, at least I got the whole thing for free but now I drive with the glovebox open or with the cable jammed in the door with it closed.
BTW XM Direct totally rocks.
You sure about that, ukpylot? The plug that Dension supplies looks like it will daisy-chain with other devices, like the CD changer. Judging from the pin-out, I think you could daisy-chain several ice>Links. Does that make sense? The Dension plug, which has both male and female sides, has the same pin layout as the back of the radio.
No, not sure at all. The Blitzsafe attaches to the CD changer port in the boot rather than behind the head unit. If the ice>Link had a pass through that kept the CD changer in use that would work but from what the guys said on the podcast it sounded like you lose the CD changer connection.
Well, there’re two methods of attachment: one is through the CD changer port in the boot, and the other’s by plugging it into the back of the head unit (which requires pulling it out of the dash). Of course, the authority’s Dension, but I’m pretty sure you can piggy-back on the plug when you install via the head-unit.
Bah, guess I was wrong. When in doubt, go to the source, eh?
Keeping both CD changer and ICE-Link
Also: other KB entries.
Did I mention that I’ve been out of the office for two weeks and my brain’s still on vacation? *sheepishgrin*
Now that I think about (y’know, actually *think*, as opposed to type-first-ask-questions-later), the ice>Link plug goes between the head unit and the factory harness, so both male and female ends of it are used. Sorry for the confusion…
Yeah… what he said…
The full size iPod and its dock fit perfectly in the cubby area below the toggle switches and remain in place. The dock allows use of the line out for the best sound quality. While you can not see the screen without the backlight on, you can easily reach the controls to skip songs, etc. If you must change playlists, or see the name of the song playing, the iPod is easily removed from the dock and replaced without affecting the aux input connection to the dock.
Actually, the pronunciation of “Dension” is DEN-tion. Or DEN-shun. That’s how they say it on the phone, anyway…
Hey, what happened to all the edits you promised? 😉
Great show guys!
One gripe that wasn’t acknowledged. Or I missed it: With the aux input is that you need to run a power supply to keep the iPod charged. With the Dension or the OEM solution your iPod stays charged.
Who wants all those wires?
I’ll give the nod to the OEM since it keeps the unit out of site in the glove box. So on a road trip or even around town, I don’t feel the need to pull it off its display stand.
We didn’t mention the need for an external power supply. But you’re right…who would want to do that? But, for those that don’t have iPod’s, car chargers are pretty scarce anyway.
I just charge my Zen at night every other day. Gives me plenty of juice.
But, with the Aux adapter, the glove box isn’t terribly convenient since the control have to be accessed directly on the device. Center console or Euro Parcel shelf (if you have it) is a much better install location.
I was giving the edge to the OEM iPod adapter not the AUX port. :p
The Euro Parcel shelf does rock though.
“I’ll give the nod to the OEM since it keeps the unit out of site in the glove box. So on a road trip or even around town, I don’t feel the need to pull it off its display stand.”
You can also install the Dension Ice-Link this way.
Guys, even though the Aux adaptor gets installed in the glovebox (I requested they install it under the toggles, but they messed up – also got it for free) you just run a slightly longer mini jack cable to your player. It does not have to be jammed in there either, since if you feed it down to the bottom of the glovebox there is enough space at the bottom “hinge” part that the glovebox door closes normally. you just run the cable over behind the downtubes then, and place your player in the cupholder (or player specific holder that sits in your cupholder).
This works perfect for me. Again, the only problem is that I can’t control from the steering wheel, but I have a Zen and so don’t have all the option that you guys with Ipods do.
Controlling the iPod is fairly easy with the supplied iPod remote. I have the AUX input in the glovebox but run a male-male 3.5mm cable from there to the iPod (which sits under my e-brake) with the iPod remote between. It is real easy to control the iPod and this solution will work with any generation iPod (shuffle excluded – no remote).
Great show guys!! This was actually the first show that I’ve heard and must say that I am really liking it. I’m currently downloading as many past ep’s so I can “catch up”. Keep up the awesome work.